"Jim Holsenback" <jho### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
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> "[GDS|Entropy]" <gds-entropy AT hotmail DOT com> wrote in message
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>> Post your water textures here; the more the better. Media is ok, photons
> are
>> ok, radiosity compatibility is great too.
>
> I'm wondering if a project like this would be better off on the POV-Wiki
> rather than adding more includes to the distribution.
> I think this is a worthy effort, so please don't take my comments as a
> negative.
>
> Jim
>

Warps response summarizes some of the reasoning behind my call for an 
include. ;-)

There is a pov wiki? Hmm..

Anyway, one might think povray would include normal things like a fog, 
water, tree, snow, or mountian macro, as those are common features to 
programs like world builder, bryce, vue and others.
Any argument against their inclusion could also be made against the stone, 
metal, wood etc.. includes!

Why should povray contain any less, when it is so easy to just make an 
include file for each?

The way I see it, those things would attract more users, who could then 
learn from those include files and subsequently contribute more content to 
the community.
There isn't any reason to make such things obscure to a new user, or to 
exclude them from the distro.
Include files are tiny, and can be a very valuable resource for both new and 
experienced users.
Many wonderful resources are lost to the internet via dead sites...why 
should users who have been around since before "the button hole" be the only 
ones with that knowledge?

So I'm going to go for it, and will leave the final call to the respected 
pov team.
What could be lost from this effort? Denial by the pov team is the worst 
outcome, in such case we can just post the results here. My goal will be 
accomplished by either outcome.

And I didnt take your comment as a negative, I just wanted to post some of 
the reasons I am doing this. :-)

ian

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